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    Re: Bringing 828 cabs up to snuff...

    Quote Originally Posted by alancohen View Post
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    Jealous!!! Great work Alan!!
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    Re: Bringing 828 cabs up to snuff...

    Then I guess this would be considered 'piling on' in the 'ole schoolyard.

    I couldn't wait for another free set of 1005Bs, so I picked up this pair of really clean tar-filled 805s this morning.

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    They came with these pretty cool mounting frames. And yes, they weigh a ton. I can't imagine what a tar-filled 1803 would be like.

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    And they're already singing...

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    I forgot how hot those 288s are. I might have to go back to the 802-8Gs.

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    Re: Bringing 828 cabs up to snuff...

    Quote Originally Posted by alancohen View Post
    Then I guess this would be considered 'piling on' in the 'ole schoolyard.

    I couldn't wait for another free set of 1005Bs, so I picked up this pair of really clean tar-filled 805s this morning.

    They came with these pretty cool mounting frames. And yes, they weigh a ton. I can't imagine what a tar-filled 1803 would be like.

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    And they're already singing...

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    I forgot how hot those 288s are. I might have to go back to the 802-8Gs.
    Wow Alan, super nice !

    From what I understand , you've got the tools to properly balance the 288s to what's under them / you just need to muster up the will to do it .


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    Re: Bringing 828 cabs up to snuff...

    Slick! FWIW, though, the stands are generating mass quantities of spurious reflections, so adding open cell foam [~30 ppi] in the gaps and all over the faces to mimic the M19s foam 'baffle' is a good plan.

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    Re: Bringing 828 cabs up to snuff...

    Quote Originally Posted by GM View Post
    Slick! FWIW, though, the stands are generating mass quantities of spurious reflections, so adding open cell foam [~30 ppi] in the gaps and all over the faces to mimic the M19s foam 'baffle' is a good plan.

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    I only did the top and bottom for now. We'll see how it sounds.

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    Re: Bringing 828 cabs up to snuff...

    Quote Originally Posted by alancohen View Post
    Then I guess this would be considered 'piling on' in the 'ole schoolyard.

    I couldn't wait for another free set of 1005Bs, so I picked up this pair of really clean tar-filled 805s this morning.
    Very Nice Alan ! I think you will like those horns better once you get them setup properly... I also agree that the 288's need some serious attenuation with a single woofer.. Think those are heavy my TF 1005's are even heavier.. The 1803's or 1505's need a forktruck..

    The 288's are way more efficient so they will sound much louder than the woofers. They do need some serious attenuation.

    They are looking Good !

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    Re: Bringing 828 cabs up to snuff...

    Quote Originally Posted by Altec Best View Post
    The 288's are way more efficient so they will sound much louder than the woofers. They do need some serious attenuation.

    They are looking Good !
    I'm back to the 802s. They are more balanced. I think what adds to the issue is the 802/288s are 8 Ohms, the 515Bs are 16.

    And thanks, they do look good.

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    Re: Bringing 828 cabs up to snuff...

    Quote Originally Posted by alancohen View Post
    I'm back to the 802s. They are more balanced. I think what adds to the issue is the 802/288s are 8 Ohms, the 515Bs are 16.

    And thanks, they do look good.
    Yes it will add to the problem.. As the 288's will get twice the power than the 515's with the resistance (Ω) mismatch.. In my DIY dual woofer box I have all 8Ω drivers (4- 416-8B's) so I was thinking of running the woofers in parallel at (4Ω) and the 288's at (8Ω) to help with the attenuation of the 288's.. I'm still playing with this idea however.Nothing set in stone..I need to pickup an active crossover to play with as well.

    The 802's can't touch the 288's in the midrange IMHO.. If you can get them properly attenuated ? I think you would enjoy them a bit more.. The 802's will extend higher though and do sound better up in the higher frequencies ...It's a catch 22 though IMHO.. The alternative would be to add a tweeter above the 288's and do a 3-way.
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    Re: Bringing 828 cabs up to snuff...

    I'm boning up on this miniDSP stuff and finally getting ready to bi-amp. That should solve all issues.

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    Re: Bringing 828 cabs up to snuff...

    IME, impedance of the drivers certainly affects passive XO design, but doesn't have much of an attenuation or SPL impact.
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